Comments on: Fer or Agin http://blog.largetony.com/2008/03/07/fer-or-agin/ The Ramblings and 'Ritings of a Big-Dicked Country Boy Mon, 06 Oct 2008 18:05:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Drackir http://blog.largetony.com/2008/03/07/fer-or-agin/#comment-91551 Drackir Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:45:55 +0000 http://blog.largetony.com/2008/03/07/fer-or-agin/#comment-91551 Just gotta say that in Australia we had our election about 6 months ago and there was the same kind of vibe. Not so much within parties (due to our different systems) but that we voted against someone, not because the other guy was any good but because we didn't want who we had. Just gotta say that in Australia we had our election about 6 months ago and there was the same kind of vibe. Not so much within parties (due to our different systems) but that we voted against someone, not because the other guy was any good but because we didn’t want who we had.

]]> By: greg http://blog.largetony.com/2008/03/07/fer-or-agin/#comment-91485 greg Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:50:55 +0000 http://blog.largetony.com/2008/03/07/fer-or-agin/#comment-91485 Excellent post, Tony. We need more positivity these days, that's for sure! Excellent post, Tony. We need more positivity these days, that’s for sure!

]]> By: dAAve http://blog.largetony.com/2008/03/07/fer-or-agin/#comment-91451 dAAve Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:27:46 +0000 http://blog.largetony.com/2008/03/07/fer-or-agin/#comment-91451 What I hate is that as the days trudge forward, Hillary and Barack will say very few positive things ABOUT THEMSELVES. (and if they do, it's probably a lie) They will only be negative about their opponent. They don't offer us much choice as to why they should be president. What I hate is that as the days trudge forward, Hillary and Barack will say very few positive things ABOUT THEMSELVES. (and if they do, it’s probably a lie) They will only be negative about their opponent. They don’t offer us much choice as to why they should be president.

]]> By: Jimmi http://blog.largetony.com/2008/03/07/fer-or-agin/#comment-91417 Jimmi Tue, 11 Mar 2008 03:33:35 +0000 http://blog.largetony.com/2008/03/07/fer-or-agin/#comment-91417 BRAVO LT!!!! I agree and you make such a great point with the "Reality TV" thinking these days! At least this go-round we don't have the likes of G.W.Bush on the docket to "Vote Against" I think even if McCain won, we wouldn't be in nearly as bad a shape as we are with our current moron! P.S. GO HILLARY GO!!! BRAVO LT!!!! I agree and you make such a great point with the “Reality TV” thinking these days! At least this go-round we don’t have the likes of G.W.Bush on the docket to “Vote Against” I think even if McCain won, we wouldn’t be in nearly as bad a shape as we are with our current moron!

P.S. GO HILLARY GO!!!

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]]> By: Kevin M http://blog.largetony.com/2008/03/07/fer-or-agin/#comment-91393 Kevin M Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:48:46 +0000 http://blog.largetony.com/2008/03/07/fer-or-agin/#comment-91393 Well... It may have come as a surprise to some (perhaps many) people that we do not directly elect the U.S. president, but that's something that's hardly been a secret; despite the best efforts of this administration, the Constitution is still a public record, and the Electoral College is right there in it, in black and white. Moreover, this isn't the first time in U.S. history that the winner of the popular vote didn't get a majority of the electoral vote, though I don't believe it happened in the 20th century. And we can howl all we want about Florida and the Supreme Court and all that, but after the election, a coalition of newspapers, including the Miami Herald (hardly a conservative bastion), did a manual count of all the "rejected" ballots. When they added those on which the voter's intent was clearly discernible into the totals, the end result was the same: Bush carried Florida. (There were many ballots that simply had no vote discernable, some which had more than one vote cast, and some unknown number where, probably, people marked the wrong candidate. But there's no way to fix, or count, those ballots.) This is not to say that the Electoral College is ideal, or that it's better (or worse) than direct election. But it's a shameful indictment of the status of civics (and history) education in this country that so many people were amazed that someone could get more votes than someone else and still lose the election. Well…

It may have come as a surprise to some (perhaps many) people that we do not directly elect the U.S. president, but that’s something that’s hardly been a secret; despite the best efforts of this administration, the Constitution is still a public record, and the Electoral College is right there in it, in black and white.

Moreover, this isn’t the first time in U.S. history that the winner of the popular vote didn’t get a majority of the electoral vote, though I don’t believe it happened in the 20th century. And we can howl all we want about Florida and the Supreme Court and all that, but after the election, a coalition of newspapers, including the Miami Herald (hardly a conservative bastion), did a manual count of all the “rejected” ballots. When they added those on which the voter’s intent was clearly discernible into the totals, the end result was the same: Bush carried Florida. (There were many ballots that simply had no vote discernable, some which had more than one vote cast, and some unknown number where, probably, people marked the wrong candidate. But there’s no way to fix, or count, those ballots.)

This is not to say that the Electoral College is ideal, or that it’s better (or worse) than direct election. But it’s a shameful indictment of the status of civics (and history) education in this country that so many people were amazed that someone could get more votes than someone else and still lose the election.

]]> By: geremy http://blog.largetony.com/2008/03/07/fer-or-agin/#comment-91377 geremy Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:56:04 +0000 http://blog.largetony.com/2008/03/07/fer-or-agin/#comment-91377 Well, as far as I can see, voting for either Hillary or Obama is the same thing, and why all the fighting is going on in the party, I don't understand. Personally, I could never vote for either one, mostly because I believe I already pay too much in taxes, and the idea of needing to pay more for an even more inept government (you thought Bush was bad--just wait until one of these two makes it even bigger and even slower than it currently is) makes me cry like a baby. Good lord, please find someone who is not interested in spending our money left and right---find someone who is interested in letting us spend our money---and that someone probably won't come from either the asses or the elephants. Well, as far as I can see, voting for either Hillary or Obama is the same thing, and why all the fighting is going on in the party, I don’t understand. Personally, I could never vote for either one, mostly because I believe I already pay too much in taxes, and the idea of needing to pay more for an even more inept government (you thought Bush was bad–just wait until one of these two makes it even bigger and even slower than it currently is) makes me cry like a baby. Good lord, please find someone who is not interested in spending our money left and right—find someone who is interested in letting us spend our money—and that someone probably won’t come from either the asses or the elephants.

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]]> By: irisgirl http://blog.largetony.com/2008/03/07/fer-or-agin/#comment-91284 irisgirl Sun, 09 Mar 2008 14:48:03 +0000 http://blog.largetony.com/2008/03/07/fer-or-agin/#comment-91284 Hi Tony--Your eloquent post sure inspired some wonderfully passionate comments---yeah freedom of speech! Personally, I am literally giddy with the prospect of a woman or person of color in the White House, and very pleased with the choice of these two specific candidates. As a lifelong resident of Illinois, I am also totally proud to claim both Hillary and Barack as our own! I am also scared shitless that somehow the Dem party will fuck up and give it to McCain, or another "Florida" will happen, or some other disaster will come along and wreck my dream of reclaiming our nation. I lose sleep over this. I also agee that the Southern vote is critical in this election. "Y'all" (said with genuine affection) need to step up and help make the change we so desperately need! You gave us Jimmy and Bill, and you can help ensure that our lives and our rights and our futures are entrusted to the leadership of Barack or Hillary, at least for the next 4 years! I LOVE this blog! Hi Tony–Your eloquent post sure inspired some wonderfully passionate comments—yeah freedom of speech! Personally, I am literally giddy with the prospect of a woman or person of color in the White House, and very pleased with the choice of these two specific candidates. As a lifelong resident of Illinois, I am also totally proud to claim both Hillary and Barack as our own!

I am also scared shitless that somehow the Dem party will fuck up and give it to McCain, or another “Florida” will happen, or some other disaster will come along and wreck my dream of reclaiming our nation. I lose sleep over this.

I also agee that the Southern vote is critical in this election. “Y’all” (said with genuine affection) need to step up and help make the change we so desperately need! You gave us Jimmy and Bill, and you can help ensure that our lives and our rights and our futures are entrusted to the leadership of Barack or Hillary, at least for the next 4 years!

I LOVE this blog!

]]> By: Ojo http://blog.largetony.com/2008/03/07/fer-or-agin/#comment-91241 Ojo Sun, 09 Mar 2008 03:11:58 +0000 http://blog.largetony.com/2008/03/07/fer-or-agin/#comment-91241 What most people don't seem to realize is: They whole system of government in the USA, and indeed most of the world, is now only a front for a few very powerful people and secret societies and orders to control almost everything from behind the scenes. The Roman church, through the Jesuits and Masons et. al. are really who are calling the shots. If a president wants to live, once they are in office, they must cooperate and do what they are told, or they are removed....JFK was a good example. I'm not surprised if you don't believe me...because most people are exactly where these power mongers want them...in the dark! So who should you vote for? It really won't matter. The agenda is already set. What most people don’t seem to realize is:

They whole system of government in the USA, and indeed most of the world, is now only a front for a few very powerful people and secret societies and orders to control almost everything from behind the scenes.

The Roman church, through the Jesuits and Masons et. al. are really who are calling the shots. If a president wants to live, once they are in office, they must cooperate and do what they are told, or they are removed….JFK was a good example.

I’m not surprised if you don’t believe me…because most people are exactly where these power mongers want them…in the dark!

So who should you vote for? It really won’t matter. The agenda is already set.

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